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What's Hot Off the Lots

Wall Street Journal -- Some interesting and surprising numbers about the vehicles being purchased and in what quantities. Charts comparing sales this year vs. last year and year to date:

What's Hot Off the Lots

Top 20 Vehicles

The U.S. Market

Sales and Share of Total Market by Manufacturer

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Submitted Jul 03, 2009 By: ccf_jeff

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korklenut All-Star Author Tacoma Posts:755 Points:153,655 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 11:03:01 PM Ignore korklenut Report Abuse Go Ford!
ShadowACE Champion Author Boston Posts:2,492 Points:884,720 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 11:03:01 PM Ignore ShadowACE Report Abuse Wizrd03 said, "Seems like the vehicles selling are the ones that are the mileage winners" You didn't really read the charts, did you? As I noted a few minutes ago, the TRUCKS (F-series, Silverado, and Ram) are the overwhelming winners in sales YTD. It's not even a little bit close. Do the math, or read my previous post (I did the math) and you'll see how wide the gap really is between the TRUCKS and the Camry/Accord/Focus(x2).
FastAndy Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:3,284 Points:840,435 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:58:00 PM Ignore FastAndy Report Abuse Ford is doing better then those companies living off the government.
nedthenanite Champion Author Mississippi Posts:2,641 Points:498,300 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:57:36 PM Ignore nedthenanite Report Abuse Then we need to get more SUVs off the roads, don't we, Jarod?
ShadowACE Champion Author Boston Posts:2,492 Points:884,720 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:57:34 PM Ignore ShadowACE Report Abuse I can't help but wonder - do willsaveNY and GasMizerAZ work for FoMoCo? Or are they just company shills? Ford has done well in the market this year (I guess that means they've done less badly than most of the others) but they are not the only company selling vehicles. Looking at the numbers in the chart yields some (I think) interesting results - The TRUCKS (Ford F-series, Chevy Silverado, and Dodge Ram) have combined YTD sales of 424,097 units. Those are the #1, #3, and #8 sellers, and the Silverado is less than 300 units behind the Camry for second place!) If we take the #2 (Camry,) #4 (Accord,) and 2-times the #9 (Focus) that YTD total is 350639 which is still over 4100 units behind the TRUCKS! Ford has sold over 85000 Fusions (not all hybrids, obviously) compared to a bit less than 56000 Prius from Toyota. The Fusion is the real thing, and it's a fine little car. They Fusion hybrid is a worthy adversary for the Prius - and it's a much nicer looking automobile... (My opinion - YMMV.) Seems it's not for nothing that the F-series and the Silverado have been the top selling vehicles for many years now. Even with the gas prices we've endured for the past couple of years they're holding onto that top spot in the charts. Both Chevy (GM) and Dodge (Chrysler) have had their business severely impacted by the government virtually all year with forced dealer closings, plant shutdowns, discontinuation of (some popular) models, etc. With all of that, the Silverado is STILL only 300 units behind Camry for the #2 slot on the chart! If you haven't looked at some of the other charts go back and follow the link to the Sales and Share of Total Market By Manufacturer chart. YTD sales - GM = 942132 units - 19.6% share Toyota = 770149 units - 16.0% share Ford = 743496 units - 15.5% share Amer. Honda = 530778 units - 11.0% share Chrysler = 471197 units - 9.8% share Nissan = 347744 units - 7.2% share Seems maybe GM wasn't the complete dud that many made it out to be. They did a lot of things wrong, but they still sold 170k more vehicles than Toyota from January through June. Ford is staying close to Toyota, and Chrysler is still ahead of Nissan. I just hope the government doesn't screw that up completely over the rest of the year. [Edited by: ShadowACE at 7/3/2009 11:58:43 PM EST]
Ken2OD Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,685 Points:713,860 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:56:24 PM Ignore Ken2OD Report Abuse An awful lot of number crunching went into this article. Too bad that it did not include MPG figures for each type of vehicle.
Jarod13 Champion Author Virginia Posts:1,662 Points:368,110 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:53:46 PM Ignore Jarod13 Report Abuse CUBBUC -- American's need to feel safe in the vehicles that they drive. By purchasing Smart cars and the likes, we're going to see an increase in the number of deaths on our roads, since SUV's and eighteen wheelers still rule the roads.
Wizrd03 Champion Author Illinois Posts:1,790 Points:378,515 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:52:43 PM Ignore Wizrd03 Report Abuse Seems like the vehicles selling are the ones that are the mileage winners
CUBBUC Champion Author Florida Posts:3,123 Points:425,040 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:49:09 PM Ignore CUBBUC Report Abuse 90 Days after the Jobs come back, the American auto industry will come back...with a LARGE pent-up demand......But NOT for tiny little Death-Traps!!!
OKRifle Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:3,355 Points:563,845 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:47:46 PM Ignore OKRifle Report Abuse A significant number of new vehicles I'm seeing on the road are pickups and suvs...around here, anyway!
zeddieiv Champion Author Columbia Posts:2,513 Points:827,260 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:45:18 PM Ignore zeddieiv Report Abuse Go Hybrids
WAdriver007 Veteran Author Seattle Posts:271 Points:14,970 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:41:59 PM Ignore WAdriver007 Report Abuse THe article would be much clearer if there were more graphs in it. It's not easy to understand all those tables and really know what's going on in the complete picture all at once. They could use more graphs. The ones that are there are helpful. Still need more.
kingpin6 Champion Author Arkansas Posts:1,255 Points:489,575 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:37:54 PM Ignore kingpin6 Report Abuse Now, if the common man could just get credit to buy one!
rjoeh Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,649 Points:1,340,785 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:33:42 PM Ignore rjoeh Report Abuse And with current lower gas costs than last year... SUV's actually seem to be making a come back from my perspective.
mplato Champion Author Columbia Posts:2,945 Points:756,640 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:31:02 PM Ignore mplato Report Abuse trucks will always be on this list....
jocamat Champion Author New Jersey Posts:9,487 Points:1,140,140 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:26:56 PM Ignore jocamat Report Abuse I can't believe that 2 of the top 3 are still pickups but I am glad to see Ford Fusion and Escape are selling real well. Go Ford!
NHLiveFree Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:2,420 Points:384,475 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:26:00 PM Ignore NHLiveFree Report Abuse The Ford Fusion Hybrid is truly great and outdoes the smaller Prius. The Nissan Altima Hybrid is much more enjoyable to drive than either Toyota Hybrid. It is a true shame that Honda did not take all its hybrid experience and come up with a much better new version of the Insight. The new vehicle sales figures are depressing but no surprise in today's blah economy. Very surprising though that the new Focus with over 35 mpg, great reviews and road tests plus big rebates does not do better in sales!
Romey08 All-Star Author Virginia Posts:603 Points:305,435 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:25:11 PM Ignore Romey08 Report Abuse Pick=up trucks? Why?
sillywagon Champion Author New York Posts:3,654 Points:317,400 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:25:00 PM Ignore sillywagon Report Abuse GasMiserAZ - Good points you have made! [Edited by: sillywagon at 7/3/2009 11:25:30 PM EST]
redcurls1 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,655 Points:1,881,600 Joined:Jan 2003	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:18:45 PM Ignore redcurls1 Report Abuse I hope Ford keeps doing well. Unfortunately, we all need to make some concessions, starting with the CEO's of companies. They need to set an example for their employees.
phurburger Champion Author Atlanta Posts:1,714 Points:363,170 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:16:43 PM Ignore phurburger Report Abuse Used cars are hot and the prices are going up
hibsaw Champion Author Mississippi Posts:1,751 Points:444,195 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:08:10 PM Ignore hibsaw Report Abuse Hope all sales pick up.
GasMiserAZ Champion Author Phoenix Posts:3,671 Points:416,225 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:08:07 PM Ignore GasMiserAZ Report Abuse Sody33, the Fusion is right on par with the Prius. The Insight is garbage.
mike911 Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,516 Points:936,165 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:07:33 PM Ignore mike911 Report Abuse Out of a job yet? Keep buying foreign!
JohnJ55 All-Star Author Dayton Posts:722 Points:680,860 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:06:59 PM Ignore JohnJ55 Report Abuse good article, a lot of interesting stats
remay All-Star Author Houston Posts:789 Points:869,320 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:06:36 PM Ignore remay Report Abuse pretty bleak figures
GasMiserAZ Champion Author Phoenix Posts:3,671 Points:416,225 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:04:50 PM Ignore GasMiserAZ Report Abuse roadrunnerMO, are you insane? You say that we need illegal aliens up here to fill jobs that don't exist! Americans are doing everything they can to earn a buck to pay the bills, and keep their heads above water, because of no jobs, and you say we need illegals filling the jobs. Do you own a meat packing plant that pays less than minimum wage to your illegals? You sir, need to find a new country to live in.
Sody33 Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:9,160 Points:1,220,695 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:01:15 PM Ignore Sody33 Report Abuse hybridahlic you definitely would regret that choice. Consumers Report has just evaluated the Insight and gave it the lowest rating ever for a car. Prius wins their top rating for a hybrid - and why not? After all the Prius is on their third generation and improving all the time. My wife drives one and it is awesome. When she is not looking I drive it!
hybridaholic Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:1,873 Points:309,680 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 9:57:29 PM Ignore hybridaholic Report Abuse Give me 2 Insights ($20,000 each) over one Volt ($40,000 each)
ThatHunt Champion Author Dallas Posts:1,213 Points:950,200 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 9:52:28 PM Ignore ThatHunt Report Abuse Unless you haul something, why does anyone need a pick-up truck?
willsaveNY All-Star Author Albany Posts:946 Points:249,140 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 9:50:42 PM Ignore willsaveNY Report Abuse Ford is the hottest. First On Recovery Determination. Figured Out Rebounding Downturn. Ford is the answer.
roadrunnerMO Champion Author Kansas Posts:2,045 Points:449,290 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 9:42:37 PM Ignore roadrunnerMO Report Abuse What was hot of the lots last month is not likely to be the same this month/quarter as we have slipped back into recession mode. What shocks me is the number of folks I know who are really enjoying their unemployment benefits and do not want a job unless it is a top notch one. So the economy needs those from south of the border who are willing to work unless they are drawing unemployment as well. So much for the work ethic of my generation who are now of retirement age.
GasMiserAZ Champion Author Phoenix Posts:3,671 Points:416,225 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 9:35:57 PM Ignore GasMiserAZ Report Abuse Ford is gaining market share big time. AND, the Fusion is kicking butt.
lightbulbman2008 Champion Author Worcester Posts:10,600 Points:366,460 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 9:35:23 PM Ignore lightbulbman2008 Report Abuse no money,no funny!!!!~~~~
kkimes Sophomore Author Illinois Posts:112 Points:515,565 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 9:33:29 PM Ignore kkimes Report Abuse What is surprising is that large and luxury cars are down the least and small SUVs actually gained. People will usually buy what they want to buy, unless gas gets just too prohibitively expensive. And, GM continues to build what people are buying. Why drop cars people want to build 35 mpg econoboxes that no one is buying?
TopGunn Champion Author Baltimore Posts:2,799 Points:1,355,210 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 9:32:50 PM Ignore TopGunn Report Abuse Odd mix of vehicles in the 'top 20'.
JayMac08 Champion Author Jackson Posts:3,386 Points:205,430 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 9:31:16 PM Ignore JayMac08 Report Abuse I have a Chevy but wish I could afford a Honda or Toyota.
TomT2Lee Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:2,629 Points:915,000 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 9:28:35 PM Ignore TomT2Lee Report Abuse Yea well the numbers are going to get even more "interesting and surprising" as the US middle class completely stops buying any cars. What happened to the Titanic after it hit the iceberg is happening to America. The stern is not suppose to be rising out of the water!
sillywagon Champion Author New York Posts:3,654 Points:317,400 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 9:15:28 PM Ignore sillywagon Report Abuse Interesting info. Ford is gaining market share, Chrysler is losing market share. About 55% of Toyota's are domestically made, and about 75% of Honda's are domestically made, I did not know that before.
hoosierdaddyno1 All-Star Author Indiana Posts:773 Points:242,190 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 9:14:49 PM Ignore hoosierdaddyno1 Report Abuse No money no buy
gasaholicNC All-Star Author North Carolina Posts:854 Points:364,410 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 9:11:55 PM Ignore gasaholicNC Report Abuse I'll just Keep My Bentley
DrivingFool2 Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:2,013 Points:365,130 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 9:09:37 PM Ignore DrivingFool2 Report Abuse my clunker can't go much further and doesn't qualify as it was rated 21 mpg back in '95
BNSF733 Champion Author Chicago Posts:2,020 Points:561,595 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 8:57:53 PM Ignore BNSF733 Report Abuse I'll keep what I got and very happy with it!
tweety258 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:1,292 Points:424,525 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 8:56:15 PM Ignore tweety258 Report Abuse I'm with Don1222: "Help the unemployment. Buy American, made in The United States."
TBRR All-Star Author Jacksonville Posts:925 Points:165,365 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 8:55:57 PM Ignore TBRR Report Abuse who cares except those that want to keep up with the Joneses. do not intend to buy a new one until the wheels fall off the one i have. runs great, gets 33mpg, no car payments either.
bigmacatac Champion Author St. Louis Posts:1,715 Points:376,415 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 8:52:39 PM Ignore bigmacatac Report Abuse Nothing!!!!!!!!! Cheaper to keep what i have
fasu007 Veteran Author South Carolina Posts:256 Points:461,850 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 8:49:59 PM Ignore fasu007 Report Abuse Very good article.
PokerAce Champion Author Baton Rouge Posts:3,406 Points:656,380 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 8:36:09 PM Ignore PokerAce Report Abuse Very interesting ....
salog Champion Author Columbia Posts:2,172 Points:665,960 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 8:29:30 PM Ignore salog Report Abuse looks like everything is a loser
RovingOkie67 Champion Author Arizona Posts:1,492 Points:395,200 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 8:27:10 PM Ignore RovingOkie67 Report Abuse The wimps and greedy tyrants from Detroit, are really behind the two edged sword.
BrucePen Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,505 Points:340,760 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 8:20:10 PM Ignore BrucePen Report Abuse The dead three are so far behind, they will never catch up.
CoffeeTrader Champion Author Victoria Posts:2,332 Points:427,780 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 8:20:10 PM Ignore CoffeeTrader Report Abuse It appears that Ford is holding their own. Obviously price has alot to do with it as well. Good article.