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Japan rethinks silent hybrid cars

BBC -- Japan is considering the introduction of noise-making devices for near-silent hybrid cars following safety fears from vision-impaired pedestrians.

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Submitted Jul 04, 2009 By: Timberline

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148366 Champion Author Spokane Posts:3,369 Points:827,335 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:56:42 AM Ignore 148366 Report Abuse Sounds good now if some brains can be installed in people we might have something.
Sportdeck Champion Author Atlanta Posts:6,957 Points:1,331,425 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:55:05 AM Ignore Sportdeck Report Abuse I love the VW TDI ad where the neighbor has to make the sound that his car makes! lol.
hank1326 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:2,576 Points:484,965 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:54:34 AM Ignore hank1326 Report Abuse Interesting concept. Would this increase the cost?
Patch44 Champion Author Buffalo Posts:2,470 Points:637,910 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:51:45 AM Ignore Patch44 Report Abuse It may be a good idea, however will cost be added to the noise maker?
DickAAA All-Star Author St. Louis Posts:981 Points:608,900 Joined:Jan 2005	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:50:46 AM Ignore DickAAA Report Abuse Sounds like a very good idea. It may also make heavy footed individuals pay more attention to their speed.
Hunter114 Champion Author Chicago Posts:1,545 Points:206,395 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:49:34 AM Ignore Hunter114 Report Abuse I prefer a quiet running car.
OKRifle Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:3,355 Points:563,845 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:48:55 AM Ignore OKRifle Report Abuse I'd like one with the theme from "The Twilight Zone"!
ThatHunt Champion Author Dallas Posts:1,213 Points:950,200 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:48:18 AM Ignore ThatHunt Report Abuse gas buddy authors have better ideas than the automakers
BBHybrid Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:2,089 Points:417,000 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:47:28 AM Ignore BBHybrid Report Abuse i honk if i see a pedestrian not paying attention
murdershewrote Champion Author Riverside Posts:3,251 Points:1,348,685 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:47:15 AM Ignore murdershewrote Report Abuse happy 4th all
Eichhornchen Champion Author Detroit Posts:1,326 Points:256,425 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:46:07 AM Ignore Eichhornchen Report Abuse it would be just like a custom horn
OutbackJon Rookie Author New York Posts:23 Points:118,635 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:45:33 AM Ignore OutbackJon Report Abuse This could make a whole new market. Make your hybrid sound like a diesel locomotive, or a (vintage) VW Beetle, or a Harley. Especially if they made the sound work with engine speed, so you could sit at a traffic light and rev your engine.
montytexas All-Star Author Houston Posts:763 Points:503,415 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:45:27 AM Ignore montytexas Report Abuse Maybe Japan could pass a law saying all drivers of near-silent hybrid cars have to honk their horn when they come to an intersection or cross-walk....
jmuse Champion Author Long Island Posts:2,219 Points:445,370 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:44:27 AM Ignore jmuse Report Abuse As a Prius owner I say no! Part of the attraction of a hybrid is the quiet.
Don1222 Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,542 Points:477,405 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:43:28 AM Ignore Don1222 Report Abuse When driving in your car, how many other cars do you hear? How many cyclist do you hear? About the only vehicles I hear are motorcycles. The noisy motorcycles do not seem to help. Why would noisy cars?
BazooQC Champion Author Montreal Posts:3,091 Points:391,785 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:43:01 AM Ignore BazooQC Report Abuse I think this is a ridiculous solution! For every problem there are alternatives. Why not consider audible devices on street corners for crosswalks or driver education on being more vigilant in pedestrian areas. Why do we have to make cars make more noise when we advertise the silent ride.
Wolfwings Champion Author Delaware Posts:2,493 Points:548,325 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:42:42 AM Ignore Wolfwings Report Abuse So, bikers have been right all along..... "LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES" Nuff said.
ljmatney Champion Author Wichita Posts:2,907 Points:416,390 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:41:37 AM Ignore ljmatney Report Abuse This is a necessary thing to do.
pbc2001 Champion Author Dallas Posts:1,521 Points:258,580 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:40:45 AM Ignore pbc2001 Report Abuse It's an interesting idea.
weenerdog Champion Author Detroit Posts:3,484 Points:657,450 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:38:35 AM Ignore weenerdog Report Abuse It is something you don't think of on the drawing table, until you put it into practice. Not just the hearing impaired, how about kids that dont hear a car
CzechSteve Champion Author Orange County Posts:1,700 Points:421,615 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:38:15 AM Ignore CzechSteve Report Abuse how about they play music?
CamryCheapster Sophomore Author Massachusetts Posts:132 Points:1,114,085 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:37:46 AM Ignore CamryCheapster Report Abuse Those cars already come with a device the driver can use to alert pedestrians and other people nearby, the Readily Announcing Distance If Ordered box, also know as RADIO. In other words, just crank it up!
trojanskip All-Star Author Orange County Posts:636 Points:334,880 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:37:07 AM Ignore trojanskip Report Abuse yes, sound system that plays motoring of muscle cars, f series, old vw's etc to speakers inside optional and one outside...
bicycler Champion Author Ontario Posts:8,246 Points:1,449,610 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:35:08 AM Ignore bicycler Report Abuse As a cyclist I appreciate this idea. I do wear a helmet attached mirror which helps me see oncoming traffic from behind and has saved my life on numerous occasions on long distance trips as well as short rides. However sound has also helped many times to make me aware of oncoming cars and trucks. I therefore applaud the noise making devices, loudly!
Zinnoil Champion Author Florida Posts:16,693 Points:1,876,640 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:34:15 AM Ignore Zinnoil Report Abuse They also get too high gas mileage for the liberals.
LeeFree Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:3,042 Points:1,020,150 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:32:57 AM Ignore LeeFree Report Abuse How about putting baseball cards in the spokes of the wheels like we used to do with our bikes as kids? Or use off-road mud tires that make lots of road noise. Actually, I agree with Hugo40, there's just no pleasing everyone.
whitemiata Champion Author Albany Posts:7,314 Points:1,531,060 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:29:25 AM Ignore whitemiata Report Abuse that's good - there are benefits of a little bit of noise...
BurntOrange Champion Author Austin Posts:1,157 Points:354,665 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:29:16 AM Ignore BurntOrange Report Abuse Just set up a bullhorn under the hood that says "I am a silent hybrid. Get out of my way". Over and over and over
indyjim Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:3,320 Points:1,067,115 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:28:39 AM Ignore indyjim Report Abuse What will they do if the vision impaired become hearing impaired?
HybridPete Champion Author Detroit Posts:3,155 Points:610,270 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:26:30 AM Ignore HybridPete Report Abuse Good call here. I have a hybrid and you can sneak up on people sometimes without even trying.
Hugo40 Champion Author Kentucky Posts:1,359 Points:376,345 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:26:11 AM Ignore Hugo40 Report Abuse There's just no way of pleasing everyone, is there? But just like everything else, when one person is affected then changes are made for the one instead of the greater good.
montana920 Champion Author Chicago Posts:2,042 Points:397,450 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:24:44 AM Ignore montana920 Report Abuse I can see this as a safety issue. Not difficult to correct......I appreciate this kind of forward thinking...good for them
milespergallon Champion Author Illinois Posts:3,725 Points:824,965 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:24:36 AM Ignore milespergallon Report Abuse If need be, but I hope they would put something on that is not obnoxious as what has already been commented. Possibly they could intorduce something that 'broadcasts' a sound and anyone who needs it could get a VERY cheap or no cost receiver!?
maske_2222 Champion Author Manitoba Posts:1,675 Points:359,375 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:24:07 AM Ignore maske_2222 Report Abuse that is a good problem to have.....
Buck_on_Bass Champion Author Tennessee Posts:1,462 Points:353,195 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:23:38 AM Ignore Buck_on_Bass Report Abuse New car technologies bring new challenges. White noise or pink noise can be heard but is not distinct. The sound does not identify the source as a vehicle. A unique sound but one that is not irritating may be helpful for the pedestrians or cyclists. The sound needs to convey information concerning speed and direction. Some of the radar systems preventing tailgating accidents are not suitable triggering a sound generator. The radar cannot tell is someone is standing between parked cars. It cannot tell the difference between the stationary person and a post or pole. Until this is addressed by the automakers, the drivers must be vigilant and watch for those using sound as another information source.
Bat99 Veteran Author Denver Posts:367 Points:117,645 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:21:52 AM Ignore Bat99 Report Abuse They could put bicycle bells on them to warn people they are coming.
Lizzylou Champion Author Stockton Posts:3,179 Points:1,230,205 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:21:09 AM Ignore Lizzylou Report Abuse "NOISE-MAKING INSTEAD OF SILENT" -- do you think they mean hearing impaired??
miatabill Champion Author St. Louis Posts:2,346 Points:216,575 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:19:37 AM Ignore miatabill Report Abuse How about clickers in the wheels like a Big Wheel?
CSharpGuy Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:3,105 Points:638,710 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:19:17 AM Ignore CSharpGuy Report Abuse Give them seeing eye dogs.
BigBobOH Sophomore Author Cleveland Posts:195 Points:94,495 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:19:15 AM Ignore BigBobOH Report Abuse nice one Chummy37
PizzaMon Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:2,181 Points:711,920 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:18:34 AM Ignore PizzaMon Report Abuse Something that must be considered.
tco0102 Champion Author Charleston Posts:2,746 Points:733,990 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:18:15 AM Ignore tco0102 Report Abuse Some noise would be nice.
Cruiser340 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:5,657 Points:1,529,110 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:17:17 AM Ignore Cruiser340 Report Abuse need to give them a bit of noise.
snell snail Champion Author Atlanta Posts:1,770 Points:1,452,480 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:17:11 AM Ignore snell snail Report Abuse ...crossing streets?...vision impaired...hearing impaired...watch out!
Jetta_Pilot Champion Author Toronto Posts:3,973 Points:568,590 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:15:49 AM Ignore Jetta_Pilot Report Abuse Just do like those idiots with their BOOM BOOM stereos. you'll hear them a mile away!
Chummy37 Veteran Author Calgary Posts:306 Points:207,420 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:14:49 AM Ignore Chummy37 Report Abuse I like the playing card in the spokes idea!
Skip928 Champion Author Arizona Posts:1,657 Points:498,765 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:14:32 AM Ignore Skip928 Report Abuse You don't have to be blind to walk out in front of a car, just be from California.
Tonester1 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:6,125 Points:1,085,570 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:14:04 AM Ignore Tonester1 Report Abuse they stole my idea.
Neilbee Rookie Author Houston Posts:21 Points:12,100 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:13:44 AM Ignore Neilbee Report Abuse That's a great idea even for those who are absent-minded not only the blind or deaf who can be safe with an ongoing car. A noise-making car is a must!
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:6,132 Points:343,430 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:11:35 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse With the number of visually impaired rising (if only because our longevity is increasing), it is certainly something to consider. But, maybe inventing a device that would vibrate and alert a visually impaired person would be even better.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:6,132 Points:343,430 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:10:32 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse Number43: that's the dumbest comment I've seen in a long time. Blind people have nothing else but their hearing. How do you expect them to SEE? They are after all... BLIND!
bluenvoy Champion Author Nashville Posts:5,636 Points:870,390 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 9:08:55 AM Ignore bluenvoy Report Abuse This noise thing is horse hockey.