tomok

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Portland
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 12:14:45 AM
Curb your emissions oil refineries. Danger zone!
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la90042

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 12:09:57 AM
they already have the technology make them use it now.
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philthethrill

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Hamilton
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 12:08:13 AM
sure looks like the same article as yesterday
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WIPACKERFAN

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 12:07:26 AM
RCinNM, I agree with you.
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gass12

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Omaha
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:57:33 PM
This should be called the Danger Zone and not the Hot Zone.
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RCinNM

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New Mexico
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:55:36 PM
This will only cause the oil industry to raise prices, again.
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djoumy

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New York
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:54:15 PM
the fair play is looking new tech for less emmisions.
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sammy09

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:51:00 PM
cost of producing oil can be unhealthy at times
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NHLiveFree

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:44:31 PM
Hope you live downwind from one of the noted refineries Z51. Then you will get more than just empirical date on this serious helth threat! See how easy it will be to sell your home and just move further away from the hot zone.
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BKool

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:44:10 PM
Our President is leading the charge in the Anti-Industrial Revolution. Anarchy is the end result with the power addicts in D.C. running for cover and no one to rule over.
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Gary65

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:43:25 PM
Nothing new in this news story, naturally Benzene from turning crude oil into gasoline can cause leukemia. Go look at the lack of standards in India for example and the incidence of cancer etc. in the adjacent population.
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Z51Corvette

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Austin
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:37:15 PM
I need more empirical data than just comments made by the President and Phillip Landrigan. If there is data that supports this, then move the people to a safer area, until measures can be taken to make things safer.
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twomikea

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:36:53 PM
another reason to drive up price
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TommyTraveler

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:32:30 PM
Destroy the industrial base of the US and create a one world government for the elite. They will fail and be dealt with accordingly.
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Blue_Cruzer

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:31:11 PM
If they can do it in europe, why not here in the USA.
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RogerB

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:27:10 PM
Great - now we force the remaining refineries in this country to move to other countries.
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pgerassi

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:26:59 PM
Obama wants it both ways. The typical way to get rid of this stuff was to burn it at very hot temperatures. But that boosts global warming gas emissions. So the refinery gets hit both ways. Either it collects these harmful byproducts and stores them forever or it burns them up and gets hit for that too.
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Night Owl

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:19:52 PM
Stick it to the oil companies.
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72_Monte

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:18:52 PM
They can pay for them WITH THE HUGE PROFITS THEY'VE SUCKED FROM OUR POCKETS over the last year or so. Tough sh*t.
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ricker8

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:18:16 PM
Sounds like Obama is picking up the pieces again from the past governments that dropped everything and hid the truth and did little for the people!
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greatscot08

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:17:53 PM
It probably would be cheaper to pay to move the people away from the refineries rather than have one of Obama's government programs.....paid, of course, by the taxpayers (as in you and me)!!!!!!
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altima2008

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Philadelphia
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:14:26 PM
Hasn't nobama learned that we can't rob peter to pay paul anymore cause peter has no money left to take!!!!
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CobraLeader

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:13:22 PM
Why don't we know where these are?
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unicornpmb

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Buffalo
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:12:08 PM
Sounds like something that should not be happening anyways.
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Bigwaynef

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:10:35 PM
Somethings bad wrong if this deals with Obama and the EPA..
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jjw0608

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:09:43 PM
Seems like everything causes something.
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BWD

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Charleston
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:06:53 PM
OMG!! Just getting up in the morning causes cancer!
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PioneerUrban

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West Virginia
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:05:43 PM
All they need is a thermal oxidizer to burn the emissions.
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muchdutch

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Wisconsin
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 11:03:38 PM
While I'm all for cleaning up these plants, how fast does the President expect this to go and at what cost?
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gg42210

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:59:15 PM
at what cost to us.
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Jarod13

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:56:10 PM
okay!
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Muke

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:55:36 PM
o.k.
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CC55

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:51:37 PM
Some people on this board have an answer for all seasons,when we talk about health problems they want to drill. Drilling is not the answer.Europe has seen the problem.
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donny47

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:50:13 PM
they should use the european technology.
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GPRS08

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:49:22 PM
Safety first - many other industries have and practice safety rules - so can the oil industries without having to rob the consumers.
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Prodaddy

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Houston
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:48:39 PM
i agree Tom11793
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tom11743

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:42:29 PM
Another chance to increase prices.
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pliskin

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Syracuse
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:42:22 PM
More Obama EPA controls, higher prices! Imagine that! I just can't cut the President a break giving what him and Congress have spent, of our money, to help us and things keep getting worse. He has the nerve to put his face on tv everyday and say how things are improving slow but sure. He can't name anywhere and can't give us the same story 2 days in a row. Elkhart, In., a city he visited several times and he said it would be when he got into office, and he afterward, is now dead in the water. It has one of the highest unemployment totals in the US.
[Edited by: pliskin at 7/4/2009 11:47:43 PM EST]
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HEBster

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:41:34 PM
No more government controls...more R & D!!!
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WCCurtis

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San Bernardino
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:40:49 PM
Just another way for the poor to get poorer.
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gilfarm

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Alabama
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:40:06 PM
They should act responsibility without being forced.
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Romey08

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:38:59 PM
Not good, need to move to alternate energy sources asap
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kbierley

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:35:08 PM
Drill for More American Oil, NOW!
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TFowler513

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Memphis
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:32:01 PM
Just another reason we need to quickly move to clean, renewable free energy such as solar, wind and hydro!!!
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mfeldstein

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Ottawa
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:23:15 PM
There's evil lurking in every facet of oil extraction and production.
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able2ru

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Little Rock
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:21:25 PM
the usa leads the world at being on the bottom
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fairchildd

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Kansas City
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:20:14 PM
so we'll end up buying more gas from the refineries outside the US that won't be under these restrictions
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SeaJay87

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Tucson
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:11:55 PM
Interesting...
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tallyankee

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:06:38 PM
Oil companies will just pass the upgrade cost on to the consumer.
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TomT2Lee

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:03:13 PM
I'm sure the chemicals and process are bad for a persons health. I am also sure that it will cost more at the pump to resolve it. Are you willing to pay a lot more?
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Kamakani

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Hawaii
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:01:15 PM
I wouldn't want to live near one even if this is a bunch of BS.
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larose

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 10:00:23 PM
I am sure we can lower our emissions.
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