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Exxon, Valero Face New Curbs on Cancer-Causing Gases (Update

Bloomberg.com -- July 2 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama is considering new curbs on U.S. oil refineries whose gas emissions pose a cancer risk to hundreds of thousands of people living near the plants, setting up a potential conflict with companies over the cost of new regulations.
Benzene from turning crude oil into gasoline can cause leukemia, said Philip Landrigan, head of community and preventive medicine at the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York. “Studies show excess rates of leukemia and related blood cancers in people, especially children, who live in communities adjacent to these refineries.”

Some of the same companies operate refineries in Europe with lower emissions than at their sites in the U.S. ...innovative technologies used by the same companies in refineries in Europe


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Submitted Jul 04, 2009 By: teafortwo
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aarrrt
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 6:47:57 PM

Why lower emissions in Europe than in the US? If they can be lowered there they can be lowered here, of course the tax paying citizens will take it in the shorts.
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PokerAce
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 6:46:31 PM

Bring it on, but we'll end up paying the price tag for it ....
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DeHavilland
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 6:43:33 PM

Ahh, of course. Now big oil can drive up the gas price using this as the reason. All the while claiming it's in our best interest.
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Kato51
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 6:43:04 PM

Strange that our refineries cause cancer and I haven't heard much about cancer in tghe middle east or Europe. How come?
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Bonanza
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 6:41:38 PM

Let's all keep an eye open for those that are against these new curbs.

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mach1lives
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 6:40:20 PM

Another scam by the oil companies?
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ramboTX
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 6:33:34 PM

I think this is good. It will cost millions in clean up. Jobs for us in the clean up if we are careful to do it right. Are We ?
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mike911
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 6:32:03 PM

It is about time!
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gasie1
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 6:29:48 PM

Another 10 cents gas tax to study the matter.
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camel1
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 6:27:47 PM

We need to protect ourselves from toxins produced by refineries. Why are our refiners doing things different here than in Europe. Our we less significant than Europeans?
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hartman
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 6:26:40 PM

all its going to do is make energy cost more
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mmene
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 6:24:29 PM

I don't often applaud government intervention, but in this case it is fully justified. Benzene is a terrible pollutant.
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JediKnight
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 6:16:43 PM

ByGuy,

Sorry but isn't it in our interest to not poison ourselves... instead of saving a few cents at the pump?

We are "paying" for the cancer already... not a bad idea to stop the cancer before it takes hold on those unfortunate to be down wind of the plant.
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sobeton
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 6:06:33 PM

How can we be the empire, the leaders of the world and do everything the wrong way. We don't produce anything, and when we do, there is a huge problem.
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DarthDadJr
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 6:02:00 PM

We need to find a way to increase our refining capacity...without killing ourselves.
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RAC110
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 5:57:39 PM

can it be done to save lives will be interesting to see it happen
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cruisingtx
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 5:57:11 PM

Another upgrade at the refineries, another jump at the pump!
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star_deceiver
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 5:55:58 PM

Wow, what a waste of time!!!
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heysailor
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 5:54:19 PM

A company won't do anything regarding safety or emissions that it's not required to do.

[Edited by: heysailor at 7/4/2009 6:55:22 PM EST]
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ByGuy
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 5:54:07 PM

Sorry but the Admin is against US interests when it comes to energy.
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eddmac
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 5:52:36 PM

Balance, we as society must decide what are acceptable risks.
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olcowboy14
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 5:47:23 PM

Every one bitchin' about everything, any wonder companies are moving to foreign countries. Be careful when you cross the road, they are dangerous too. Get real!
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kookiwoogi
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 5:46:42 PM

A day late and a dollar short.
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kyrunner
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 5:42:00 PM

I am sure when the Cap & Tax bill gets passed our refineries can shut down and import ALL reined products. Now that is change we can believe in.
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ccycles
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 5:39:02 PM

"Why not blame Obama that refinery benzene emissions cause cancer in children? Blame Obama for cancer, too." no that would take some dumb a$$ like bush
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mstearno
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 5:38:20 PM

Perhaps we can work a deal with Iran where they refine our oil for us?
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CruisinLinda
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 5:35:01 PM

Why not blame Obama that refinery benzene emissions cause cancer in children? Blame Obama for cancer, too.
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blazerbob91
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 5:34:31 PM

Why don't they use the technologies that Europe is using. One reason, greed.
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 5:32:53 PM

dred001 - the environmental restrictions are far more stringent in Europe!
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 5:18:07 PM

need more renewable energy
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john382
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 5:14:22 PM

NIMBY that is what anyone would say. We need to find a new way of doing things not shutting things down.

(Not In My Back Yard)
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beachbumCA
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 5:12:39 PM

This is a fact. We only want gas from the oil industry. Soon our government will run the refineries.
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dred001
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 5:08:14 PM

in europe they build new refineries...here the EPA has killed most new efforts..and barely allows refineries to upgrade...EnviroNAZI'a reap what they sow! And now they make it seem like the refiners are the bad guys
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We can never insulate ourselves from every situation that is potentially harmful.
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 5:02:33 PM

Crap! This might cause gasoline prices to go up.
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 5:01:58 PM

This is just one of the hidden costs of petroleum, another is the amount of pollution from the tanker ship, and the military costs for protecting the oil companies.
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 5:00:18 PM

Chemicals we have used for years are now starting to bite us in the butt...
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:51:10 PM

If these suckers can do it in Europe, they can do it here and they better start.
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seville04
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:46:05 PM

Benzene is very very bad, a true carcinogen.
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pokey469
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:45:56 PM

I can almost here the price going up as a result.
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:44:43 PM

The oil companies are going to have to upgrade their plants.
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Obama is so naive, you can't save the world because You want it to happen.
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teafortwo
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:43:21 PM

Lets just simplify it, eh?.

Go GREEN.

Get BIG OIL out of our pockets, out of our lungs, out of our systems.

Those of you that feel you MUST have your BENZENE FIX,

you can chug the stuff for all I care.

Just get big oil POISONS out of our SHARED environment.
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:43:12 PM

What else are they going to blame oil companies on???
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:39:22 PM

So, just move those people away from the source of the carcinogens. Do I have to think of everything. Jeesh!!
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YumaKacz
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:34:24 PM

This is just another way for the government to keep the prices high.
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us412
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:30:54 PM

Is there any proof of these allegations?
It is very easy to throw around accusations even by this President w/o any evidence, even easier for this guy to do.
Something like the big law suite by parents of these kids where the refiners lost.
Statements by people feeding at the gvmnt trough and beholden for their next meal doesn't sway many but the brain washed.
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:30:40 PM

I wish someone would show him (Obama) the door. OUT
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CruisinLinda
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:30:07 PM

Why wasn't cancer-causing benzene emission stopped years ago to protect the children?! Oh, yes, we had an adminstration which favored profits or somewhat cheaper gas over health of children. Some of the posters seem to still be in that dark space.
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RockCity
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:26:47 PM

Not sure what planet your from, but anyone with an once of brains will tell you jobs have been leaving the country since you decided it was ok to deregulate industry.
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caddilac
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 4:23:12 PM

Anybody that is against these new curbs on U.S. oil refineries must be in favour of our children and grand children getting cancer.

Let's all keep an eye open for those that are against these new curbs.

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