gasokie

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Oklahoma
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2009 9:44:40
I'm all for the payback. I predict Chrysler will plug along a few more years and Fiat will dump them. Their trucks can't carry them forever.
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dkinsf

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2009 9:28:25
Let's hope that is enough. We need Chrysler heathy enough to pay back those government loans.
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FuelBarge

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2009 6:30:51 AM
Why are they basing their hopes on SUV's? The next oil shock will finish them off for good.
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Mooseman1

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Manitoba
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2009 12:08:53 AM
Pumping life into their line up means: best quality car for as little as possible. Click on the link for more info...
The Future...
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greywolves

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Las Vegas
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 11:18:00
so fiat has a 5 year plan, $2 bn more in the bank, now they need to sell some cars.
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NavyStore

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 10:26:01
I wouldn't write CJD off yet. I love my Jeep and think the (now defunct) Magnum, 300 and Pacifica are beautifully designed vehicles.
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PissedCanuck

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 9:35:01
Chrysler's time has come and gone. If they don't have anything groundbreaking like the K-cars and minivans of the 80's with good fuel efficiency and engine horsepower wrapped in a stunning design (which they are usually good at, but not recently) by next year, they may be gone for good.
[Edited by: PissedCanuck at 11/4/2009 10:36:24 PM EST]
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MRED3

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Jacksonville
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 9:27:46
It sounds like new K cars for Chrysler they do not work in the late 70 or early 80.
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cudatim

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 9:26:36
Boy I can hear it now; a muscle car based on efficient transmissions and small engines. Poor Charger!
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Rednix

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Miami
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 9:16:10
Good luck Chrysler.
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Hugo40

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 9:15:53
Good luck with that.
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cutter1330

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Oklahoma
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 9:15:24
Will the American people pump new $$$ into Chrysler?
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sillywagon

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New York
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 9:10:43
Frankenstien's monster?
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e3p0

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 9:09:36
I agree with Graceman. If we don't buy American, we are helping someone else's economy. Obama is already doing a marvelous job of that all by himself.
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graceman

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Baltimore
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 9:05:54
Buy American
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Z51Corvette

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Austin
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 9:03:32
It doesn't!!!
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YLHandyman

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 8:55:31
How does that Jeep work with a Fiat engine and trans.
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NavyEOD

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 8:48:22
Good luck.
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dollarwatcher

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Wisconsin
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 8:33:55
Chrysler=Fiat=doom=done for.
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nightworker998

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 8:30:24
Probably fiat sized chrysler sized with the tiny fiat motor it won't get out of its own way let alone anybody elses
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2granny

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 8:28:58
I'll just wait to see the results.
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foxups

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 8:28:09
pump that money back to the government
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dbatw

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 8:23:53
the most telling statement in the whole article is "Marchionne has said Fiat wouldn't contribute any of its own money to Chrysler." Look out American taxpayers, here he comes.... Again I say, when he starts building Fiats, Chryslers, Alfas, Ferraris, call 'em whateveryouwant; when Americans start building vehicles for the company in Fenton, MO, I will consider buying one. Not until.
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roadkillGA

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 8:16:21
The Chineese Crysler?
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bbreff

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 8:11:35
Will it be Chrysler or Fiat size cars?
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ghost_SC

Rookie Author
Columbia
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 8:08:10
told earlier: one looser bought another - both will be dead sooner... hoo-oo-oo-ray!
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DEG

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Las Vegas
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 7:59:52
Most likely will end up a loser and back in bankruptcy if they try to undersize the engines for the US market.
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playtimeCLE

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 7:56:23
I just hope the Jeep survives all this.
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dmark101

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 7:56:07
hmm. didn't daimler try this same approach, albeit with older tech & parts from the mercedes-benz line?
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LanguageMan1

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 7:49:47
Mainly foreign designed and foreign made stuff or a bunch of foreign parts. Like I said months ago, they're (the big corporations, the automakers, the government, etc.) still shipping our jobs overseas. Wake up America!
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SSchmidty

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 7:46:09
So whatcan really be done when ownership is Gov't and foreign managed?
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TRAIN RIDER

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San Bernardino
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 7:44:27
WHAT YOU AIM TO DO AND WHAT YOU DO CAN BE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. THEY NEED TO GET RELIABLE CARS ALSO.
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DellMan

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Omaha
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 7:36:43
I don't see it happening, them making a good enough profit to stay out of bankruptcy. When you have the UAW and the Obama administration having a controlling interest they can't do anything but fail. The UAW will try to get more and more benefits and raises for its workers, who are already overpaid for unskilled laborers, and Obama will go along because he wants their help next year and when he runs for reelection in 3 years.
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hwnguy

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Honolulu
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 7:36:43
we'll see how it goes
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Buck_on_Bass

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 7:31:30
Italian production will be helpful if adequate information on the new designs and are adequate spares are available. Poor performance, poor service, and a lack of parts will kill Chrysler.
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zeddieiv

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Columbia
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 7:24:15
Hey papagreg, At least they won't loo like the awful Citrogens!
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kidrockTX

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 7:18:47
as long as they do not listen to obama they should be ok
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djgunrunner

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Salt Lake City
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 7:07:48
I recently took my '03 Dodge Ram with a 5.9 Cummins and went 3,800 miles. My average mpg was 19.5. Had there been a 3:54 axes ration it would have been about 22.5. Also had there been a real 6 speed transmission (manual) which had an overdrive and no compound the mileage would have been around 25. If I could buy the above described truck I would order one today.
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revON

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 7:06:37
not the time.
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papagreg

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 6:52:26
Hopefully the technology they are talking about won't include the hideous looks some of Fiat's cars have.
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uglytom

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Florida
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 6:47:42
They need a real market stealer.
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SUPERQUACK

Rookie Author
Sacramento
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 6:44:35
TOO LITTLE TOO LATE
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jwduke1

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Iowa
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 6:44:15
I wish Chrysler the BEST of luck, with the UAW & the Nobama Administration at the helm!
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HybridPete

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 6:41:01
Maybe the toilet is about to regurgitate and bring this company back to life.?!
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granma3xnow

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 6:39:47
SEEING is believing.
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MPGKing

All-Star Author
New Jersey
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 6:34:18
Chrysler is going down the toilet.
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WilW

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 6:32:05
Yeah, right. Check back with me in ten years (if either of us is still around).
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RobRD

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Alberta
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 6:30:59
The message was not very impressive. New products won't showing up for 2 product years. How is Chrysler going to survive until then.
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brus282

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 6:28:45
does anybody remember anything good from Fiat back years ago? didn't think so, now do you really think they will do that much better second time around, other than ruin Chyrsler
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packards42

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Washington
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2009 6:28:10
Who going sell a cumming power heavy truck for the mass, if Dodge doesn't make it.
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