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Exxon, Valero Face New Curbs on Cancer-Causing Gases (Update

Bloomberg.com -- July 2 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama is considering new curbs on U.S. oil refineries whose gas emissions pose a cancer risk to hundreds of thousands of people living near the plants, setting up a potential conflict with companies over the cost of new regulations.
Benzene from turning crude oil into gasoline can cause leukemia, said Philip Landrigan, head of community and preventive medicine at the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York. “Studies show excess rates of leukemia and related blood cancers in people, especially children, who live in communities adjacent to these refineries.”

Some of the same companies operate refineries in Europe with lower emissions than at their sites in the U.S. ...innovative technologies used by the same companies in refineries in Europe

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Submitted Jul 04, 2009 By: teafortwo

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:5,896 Points:330,330 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 6, 2009 4:58:20 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse I wish the administration good luck as they need it trying to take on Big Oil.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:5,896 Points:330,330 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 6, 2009 4:57:55 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse Metroman: you're right. In thic country, we have a lobby that keeps pollutors polluting and the little guy gets nothing. With a few exceptions maybe...
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:5,896 Points:330,330 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 6, 2009 4:56:34 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse hmmm... finally someone messing with Big Oil's profits?
Blue48 Champion Author Illinois Posts:1,440 Points:376,580 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 9:21:17 PM Ignore Blue48 Report Abuse WOW!
WonderfulMI Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,995 Points:509,600 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 6:03:18 AM Ignore WonderfulMI Report Abuse They should have been doing this all along. Just because you can make something cheaper if you do not dispose of the toxic wastes, you should not kill people for a buck.
mandoid Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:1,680 Points:346,835 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 6:02:49 AM Ignore mandoid Report Abuse i think you're right tmannd
BigDogOH Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:2,143 Points:554,095 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 5:58:05 AM Ignore BigDogOH Report Abuse Obama taking over refineries now
Doubleeez Champion Author Connecticut Posts:1,217 Points:266,910 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 5:53:45 AM Ignore Doubleeez Report Abuse If prices have to rise, I would rather see them go up because of safety refinements to the process rather than just plain greed.
tmannd All-Star Author North Dakota Posts:592 Points:42,105 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 5:52:54 AM Ignore tmannd Report Abuse keep hisd bright ideas out of it. Must be buying oil companys withour money.
Hunter724 Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:1,719 Points:369,285 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 5:52:17 AM Ignore Hunter724 Report Abuse Should be looked at closely....
BoerneWatch Champion Author San Antonio Posts:8,422 Points:1,177,360 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 5:51:32 AM Ignore BoerneWatch Report Abuse Read the story. It is political.
FMREALTOR All-Star Author Florida Posts:614 Points:473,015 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 5:49:28 AM Ignore FMREALTOR Report Abuse And what is the price of gasoline in europe?
sherlockMS Champion Author Mississippi Posts:1,349 Points:306,365 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 5:47:48 AM Ignore sherlockMS Report Abuse price of gas goes up again
Metroman Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:7,082 Points:1,387,865 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 5:45:22 AM Ignore Metroman Report Abuse Imagine that! They can run refineries in Europe that have lower emmisions, but not in this country.
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neptune2008 Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,093 Points:417,085 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 5:37:57 AM Ignore neptune2008 Report Abuse just one of many cancer causing agents, sources...
Prescottonian Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,183 Points:527,395 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 5:31:54 AM Ignore Prescottonian Report Abuse I agree, we don't want to be causing cancer in people in order to produce gasoline.
theduster1 Champion Author Texas Posts:1,396 Points:312,285 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 5:24:28 AM Ignore theduster1 Report Abuse just another reason for obama to send more u.s. jobs over seas.
Ratso Champion Author Ohio Posts:8,617 Points:1,418,745 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 5:15:27 AM Ignore Ratso Report Abuse SO....the point is?????
lpj Champion Author Macon Posts:5,769 Points:1,227,155 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 4:53:36 AM Ignore lpj Report Abuse we have a lot of smart people in the usa looks like they would work all the problems out with the refineries !!
gibber73 Sophomore Author Columbus Posts:165 Points:208,150 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 4:53:22 AM Ignore gibber73 Report Abuse Safety first
BM4225 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,941 Points:881,740 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 4:49:30 AM Ignore BM4225 Report Abuse Well I guess they are more concerned about their citizens than we are. Did you know that American food manufactures put less sodium in their food products in Europe, than here? They say they cannot reduce sodium in the products produce here because of cost.
Petrock Champion Author Lexington Posts:2,994 Points:1,318,210 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 4:43:47 AM Ignore Petrock Report Abuse Is this really an issue or just political fodder? If it is real action needs to be taken, but then of course, WE will get to pay for it.
skybiker Champion Author South Carolina Posts:2,023 Points:379,755 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 4:35:20 AM Ignore skybiker Report Abuse BO so concerned about CO2 . Now this is a real issue...Lets see what happens.....
Bus561 Champion Author Lexington Posts:9,941 Points:1,941,825 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 4:34:05 AM Ignore Bus561 Report Abuse Just something else that they have now thought of to add to the cost of gas.
nemoFL Champion Author Florida Posts:2,610 Points:375,825 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 4:21:10 AM Ignore nemoFL Report Abuse about time
MidnightSun Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:1,759 Points:317,865 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 4:19:37 AM Ignore MidnightSun Report Abuse Sadly true! Children and adults have more deformities and a higher cancer rate living near refineries. If you care about children's safety, do a google search, then read the facts.
G.Lee Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:14,445 Points:2,137,985 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 4:16:13 AM Ignore G.Lee Report Abuse Big Oil isn't in the health care business. Why should they worry about your health.
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joel27nc Champion Author Raleigh Posts:3,992 Points:593,820 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 1:26:12 AM Ignore joel27nc Report Abuse They should act responsibility without being forced.
zornave Champion Author Louisville Posts:13,128 Points:2,085,225 Joined:Jul 2001	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 12:47:12 AM Ignore zornave Report Abuse ...and how many lives have been lost so far by this 'terrible' menace?
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roadrunnerMO Champion Author Kansas Posts:1,994 Points:436,945 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 12:21:55 AM Ignore roadrunnerMO Report Abuse Oil refineries need to curb their emissions and allow only a safe level near their fefineries. There need to be periodic tests to ensure areas are reasonably safe.
maske_2222 Champion Author Manitoba Posts:1,610 Points:346,500 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 12:20:51 AM Ignore maske_2222 Report Abuse they have the technology...
Asbury09 All-Star Author Iowa Posts:870 Points:258,455 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 12:19:31 AM Ignore Asbury09 Report Abuse why aren't they using the same technology here?
altonb1 Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:3,404 Points:387,610 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2009 12:18:11 AM Ignore altonb1 Report Abuse I understand the need for public safety regarding health concerns, but it sure seems like the timing is suspect, and the costs will most definitely passed along ten-fold to the consumers.
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