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New Ethanol Production Process Claims to Increase Recoverable Energy by 2000%

OilPrice.com -- With all the focus on electric vehicles it can be easy to forget the billions that the government pours into biofuels, and especially corn based ethanol production. Most people prefer the idea of EV’s than using ethanol blended gasoline to fuel their cars, but a new method for ethanol production could increase its popularity.

Researchers at the Michigan State University claim that they can increase the amount of energy recovered during ethanol production by 2000 percent.

The waste products from the procedure are then used to generate hydrogen which helps to further increase the energy produced, up to 73%; a bit of an improvement from the current 4.5%, and one that could revolutionise the whole industry.

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Submitted Aug 14, 2012 By: NOTSOGRN

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,643 Points:1,611,470 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 5:07:14 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse 2000% of hardly anything is a good increase.... 2000% of a decent process is usually difficult to achieve. What does that say about the efficiency of the process in the first place?
Praxtwin Rookie Author Columbus Posts:29 Points:242,855 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 1:35:26 PM Ignore Praxtwin Report Abuse need to build cars at greater mpg
rbrowdersr Champion Author Detroit Posts:5,726 Points:1,819,960 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 12:00:02 PM Ignore rbrowdersr Report Abuse Empty claims.
MadTraveler Champion Author Idaho Posts:2,082 Points:572,100 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 10:35:46 AM Ignore MadTraveler Report Abuse I am not buying into the "claim" - stop the ethanol project. Let's eat!
EvergreenON All-Star Author Ontario Posts:948 Points:485,415 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 10:15:00 AM Ignore EvergreenON Report Abuse OK
WalkingWV Champion Author West Virginia Posts:3,701 Points:779,595 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 10:04:33 AM Ignore WalkingWV Report Abuse Get rid of ethanol! Restore lost gas mileage and stop damaging fuel systems.
NukeAtComEd All-Star Author Milwaukee Posts:725 Points:338,520 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 9:38:38 AM Ignore NukeAtComEd Report Abuse and what are we going to do with the hydrogen produced by this process?
crep1291 Champion Author Ottawa Posts:2,583 Points:481,250 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 9:20:36 AM Ignore crep1291 Report Abuse "Ban ethanol entirely!" Why? Ethanol is a very useful chemical. It's a very safe and versatile solvent, makes intoxicating drinks most people enjoy, and, yes, it can be used as fuel, although the way we're burning ethanol these days (in E10) is not very efficient. Your engine would have problems running without ethanol. Although ethanol has 2/3 the energy contents of gasoline, it has a much higher octane rating. With the proper technology (a variable turbocharger which increases the compression ratio when burning higher grades of fuel yielding higher fuel efficiency), E85 yields the same fuel efficiency as E0 or any other blend. So instead of pushing for a ban on ethanol, perhaps we should push for better technology in our vehicles.
CISA Champion Author Orange County Posts:5,956 Points:1,400,940 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 7:51:20 AM Ignore CISA Report Abuse noted
isem Champion Author Missouri Posts:1,936 Points:425,135 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 7:43:21 AM Ignore isem Report Abuse Ban ethanol entirely!
scu227 Champion Author New Haven Posts:4,162 Points:773,830 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 7:23:04 AM Ignore scu227 Report Abuse Ok but seeing is believing
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smokinjoe54 Champion Author Ohio Posts:4,728 Points:913,735 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 7:19:57 AM Ignore smokinjoe54 Report Abuse Sounds good.
w4kh Champion Author Tennessee Posts:11,680 Points:2,230,940 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 6:36:25 AM Ignore w4kh Report Abuse Any time someone finds a way to improve a process for making fuel, it is a good thing...
gs7101 Champion Author San Antonio Posts:5,533 Points:389,120 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 6:36:09 AM Ignore gs7101 Report Abuse Don't believe the hype!
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bar1035 Champion Author Charlotte Posts:9,172 Points:1,300,170 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 6:24:38 AM Ignore bar1035 Report Abuse More is going to decrease it's popularity stupid author
RocketGeek Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:10,602 Points:2,110,335 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 6:22:41 AM Ignore RocketGeek Report Abuse Give it up on Ethanol already.
Piper0072 All-Star Author Rochester Posts:906 Points:382,580 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 6:19:48 AM Ignore Piper0072 Report Abuse I'll believe this when I see it. Part of the rise in gas prices is now being driven by higher corn prices (caused by the drought). So let's just keep pushing food into our gas tanks.
07skydriver Champion Author Ohio Posts:3,270 Points:984,285 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 6:19:41 AM Ignore 07skydriver Report Abuse More GOP BS
silverfoxv65 Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,490 Points:1,231,850 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 6:17:33 AM Ignore silverfoxv65 Report Abuse Well it needs it, i wish the crap would go away.
DougtheEconMan Champion Author Akron Posts:1,903 Points:268,690 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 6:12:25 AM Ignore DougtheEconMan Report Abuse Keep your tanks and gas-cans full! For the next 4 or 5 weeks, most of the country may be facing higher prices and shortages of gasoline. May get fugly. Be smart!
Nancy&Len Champion Author Cleveland Posts:2,063 Points:1,947,765 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 6:12:22 AM Ignore Nancy&Len Report Abuse Don't believe it.
checkum Champion Author St. Louis Posts:7,598 Points:1,475,115 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 6:11:54 AM Ignore checkum Report Abuse of course the ethanol industry will blow smoke up your, ummm, nose now that there isn't enough corn for food now......
brbts Champion Author Charlotte Posts:3,648 Points:777,340 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 6:10:31 AM Ignore brbts Report Abuse and most people STILL DON'T want it - give us a choice and see what sells!
prcoqui Champion Author Maryland Posts:3,960 Points:1,675,150 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 6:10:23 AM Ignore prcoqui Report Abuse Great if it works.
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QueenMother Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:7,403 Points:2,145,385 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 6:04:18 AM Ignore QueenMother Report Abuse They're trying to grow more corn but there's a drought in the midwest.
alwaysridin88 Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,456 Points:567,675 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 6:02:49 AM Ignore alwaysridin88 Report Abuse Too good to be true. Eliminate ethanol and lower food prices.
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DougtheEconMan Champion Author Akron Posts:1,903 Points:268,690 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 6:00:21 AM Ignore DougtheEconMan Report Abuse Keep your tanks and gas-cans full! For the next 4 or 5 weeks, most of the country may be facing higher prices and shortages of gasoline. May get fugly. Be smart!
sramroop Champion Author Birmingham Posts:3,327 Points:741,805 Joined:Jul 2010	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 6:00:01 AM Ignore sramroop Report Abuse Good luck
tcohio Champion Author Dayton Posts:2,717 Points:809,620 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 5:59:45 AM Ignore tcohio Report Abuse we need to end the ethanol debate.. get it out of gas.. not good for engines, less efficient than gas, increases cost, decreases food supply... where are the pro's?? Oh yeah.. it burns slightly cleaner than gas... OH then lets keep it!!
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rvn4me Champion Author Texas Posts:5,601 Points:1,494,965 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 5:58:32 AM Ignore rvn4me Report Abuse This really doesnt matter, ethanol is not good for your car and corn is for eating.
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