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UPDATE 1-Shell to pay $19.5 mln for California violations

Reuters -- California AG investigated 1,000 Shell gasoline stations

* Shell failed to maintain gasoline tanks properly -AG

* Shell admits no liability, pleased to reach settlement

OAKLAND, Calif., Nov 6 (Reuters) - California was awarded $19.5 million in a settlement against Royal Dutch Shell Plc's (RDSa.L) U.S. unit for not storing fuel properly at filling stations in the state, Attorney General Jerry Brown said on Friday.

"Shell Oil company disregarded the state's underground fuel storage and hazardous waste laws, committing hundreds of environmental violations at its gasoline stations across California," Brown said in a statement.

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Submitted Nov 07, 2009 By: liltruckman

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RobRD Champion Author Alberta Posts:3,132 Points:756,785 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 10:15:46 PM Ignore RobRD Report Abuse Hopefully Shell has cleaned up their act.
alterman156 Champion Author New York Posts:1,027 Points:296,265 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 6:16:25 PM Ignore alterman156 Report Abuse Shell should pay more than the $19,500,000 fine. They should pay additional penalties.
jeromehasbargen Champion Author Minnesota Posts:1,240 Points:246,130 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 4:44:24 PM Ignore jeromehasbargen Report Abuse It is good that they should pay for their errors.
BEngr Veteran Author Illinois Posts:345 Points:340,920 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:25:46 PM Ignore BEngr Report Abuse I wonder why it took the State of California so long before they took legal action? Now the question is when will they get the money?
Mr.Dirt Champion Author Albany Posts:3,689 Points:1,562,725 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:11:18 PM Ignore Mr.Dirt Report Abuse and we will pay that fine in price hike
craveninnj Rookie Author New Jersey Posts:95 Points:19,475 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:58:32 PM Ignore craveninnj Report Abuse and the gas prices soar... exxon's will likely follow suit as well
DFleming Veteran Author Alberta Posts:430 Points:89,735 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:58:28 PM Ignore DFleming Report Abuse That's a drop in the bucket compared to fixing the problem
ramboTX Champion Author Dallas Posts:2,836 Points:551,940 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:57:06 PM Ignore ramboTX Report Abuse Sure, Exxon still hasn't paid there millions in fines for the Exxon Valdez.
jwduke1 Champion Author Iowa Posts:9,890 Points:1,937,380 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:55:36 PM Ignore jwduke1 Report Abuse That should be worth a quarter at the pump!
Wolfwings Champion Author Delaware Posts:2,493 Points:548,325 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:52:06 PM Ignore Wolfwings Report Abuse When a company gets a government fine, they pass that fine on to the customers by raising their prices. Subsequently, all others in that field will see a reason to also raise their prices, thereby scoring a bigger profit for no reason at all.
garman87 Sophomore Author Austin Posts:226 Points:1,233,705 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:50:10 PM Ignore garman87 Report Abuse Finally good news for California.
Tatalah Champion Author Riverside Posts:4,228 Points:1,268,040 Joined:May 2003	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:47:51 PM Ignore Tatalah Report Abuse We let foreign companies dictate the way we live.
threewheeler All-Star Author Seattle Posts:947 Points:49,880 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:45:37 PM Ignore threewheeler Report Abuse price at the pump will be going up soon
janctx Champion Author Texas Posts:1,361 Points:581,545 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:43:13 PM Ignore janctx Report Abuse bad for Shell good for Cali
guyincognitoNY Champion Author New York Posts:1,943 Points:395,285 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:43:00 PM Ignore guyincognitoNY Report Abuse this is why calif. should be paying a dollar more a gallon then the rest of the u.s.
Zeke33 Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:1,877 Points:750,550 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:38:26 PM Ignore Zeke33 Report Abuse Hefty fine, but not enough to balance the budget.
CISA All-Star Author Orange County Posts:830 Points:481,680 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:37:16 PM Ignore CISA Report Abuse Appears as thought this is a legitimate resolution. Usually, Brown has an agenda he's promoting.
olcowboy14 Champion Author Spokane Posts:3,240 Points:536,110 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:36:30 PM Ignore olcowboy14 Report Abuse My guess would be that it would be easy to violate hundreds of environmental regulations in California.
rjoeh Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,649 Points:1,340,785 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:32:51 PM Ignore rjoeh Report Abuse A drop in the bucket compared to last years profits from gouging.
socalusra Champion Author California Posts:3,090 Points:2,073,615 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:30:47 PM Ignore socalusra Report Abuse you mean we will pay 19.5 million right
LanguageMan1 Champion Author Tampa Posts:4,354 Points:471,325 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:29:59 PM Ignore LanguageMan1 Report Abuse Wonder if Shell will pay or choose not to like Exxon hasn't paid on the Valdez yet. OF COURSE Shell won't admit any liability; the oil companies hardly ever do, nor the big corporations in-general.
PaylessKY Champion Author Kentucky Posts:1,430 Points:377,430 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:26:11 PM Ignore PaylessKY Report Abuse They will raise fuel prices to pay for this.
DellDude2 Champion Author Nashville Posts:2,469 Points:867,535 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:21:07 PM Ignore DellDude2 Report Abuse Wonder if someone sicked Erin Brockovich on them?
pulpwood Champion Author Mississippi Posts:2,773 Points:922,005 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:20:09 PM Ignore pulpwood Report Abuse Dirty bums!
Art48 Veteran Author Sacramento Posts:430 Points:18,095 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:13:52 PM Ignore Art48 Report Abuse ARCO was hit with a similar fine a few years ago. Did their prices go up? They are still the cheapest stations in California. When a hospital is fined for doing things wrong do their rates go up. I guess you wouldn't want them to be fined.
lpj Champion Author Macon Posts:5,834 Points:1,240,030 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:07:24 PM Ignore lpj Report Abuse price at the pump will be going up soon !!!
lindact Champion Author New Haven Posts:2,588 Points:512,735 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:06:11 PM Ignore lindact Report Abuse This is pocket change to them.
nimpy Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:2,978 Points:658,675 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 12:58:09 PM Ignore nimpy Report Abuse Even though it is just we will pay for it at the pumps
NavyStore Champion Author Seattle Posts:1,291 Points:904,035 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 12:52:19 PM Ignore NavyStore Report Abuse They got off to easy.
dhnbBUG Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:2,252 Points:515,350 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 12:51:25 PM Ignore dhnbBUG Report Abuse Yet another good reason to shift away from oil.
dopster All-Star Author Toledo Posts:832 Points:1,115,250 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 12:50:00 PM Ignore dopster Report Abuse So you think it's OK to leak gasoline into ground water???
gr8oakOH Champion Author Akron Posts:1,912 Points:502,165 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 12:47:00 PM Ignore gr8oakOH Report Abuse another reason for them to raise retial prices. give me & everyone & damn breaak & stop this crap now. CALL YOUR DAMN LOCAL CONGRESSMAN & GIVE THEM SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. IF THEY DO NOTHING ABOUT ALL OF THIS, JUST TELL THEM THAT THEY WILL BE REPLACED IN THE NEXT YEARS ELECTIONS
repeater1 Champion Author Kansas Posts:2,008 Points:1,116,675 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 12:44:16 PM Ignore repeater1 Report Abuse Here goes the price up again in order to recover the costs their own negligence caused.
PDQBlues Champion Author San Diego Posts:1,058 Points:260,325 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 12:44:04 PM Ignore PDQBlues Report Abuse It may not get California out of her mess, but it'll help. ;-)
ByGuy Champion Author Dallas Posts:1,893 Points:517,175 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 12:40:43 PM Ignore ByGuy Report Abuse Won't get CA of of it's mess.
arnerator Champion Author Seattle Posts:1,784 Points:369,510 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 12:38:50 PM Ignore arnerator Report Abuse 19.5 mill.....a drop in the oil bucket.
Cuzilla Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:7,461 Points:1,303,325 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 12:33:34 PM Ignore Cuzilla Report Abuse I have no response to this.
BlackGumTree Champion Author Virginia Posts:8,287 Points:876,720 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 12:30:27 PM Ignore BlackGumTree Report Abuse The article stated: "Apart from paying $19.5 million in penalties to government agencies and legal costs, Shell must take a series of steps to improve spill and alarm monitoring and hazardous waste management at its stations, according to the judgment signed in Alameda County Superior Court in Oakland." It would appear that it is a fair settlement, providing that Shell makes the corrections ordered. I suspect that the EPA may get involved later if it is found that damage was done to the environment.
SUPERQUACK Rookie Author Sacramento Posts:91 Points:715,985 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 12:28:45 PM Ignore SUPERQUACK Report Abuse agree with fx rider94
CLM06 Champion Author Tampa Posts:3,250 Points:840,775 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 12:28:01 PM Ignore CLM06 Report Abuse What does Shell care?
Asbury09 All-Star Author Iowa Posts:930 Points:271,905 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 12:27:27 PM Ignore Asbury09 Report Abuse at 19.5 million they are getting by CHEAP why cloud the picture by admitting liabilty - smart move on Shell's part. The fine should have been 195 million (California needs the cash)
balljars Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,269 Points:453,075 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 12:26:47 PM Ignore balljars Report Abuse Costly mistake, yes we will all pay in the end.
FXRider94 Sophomore Author New Jersey Posts:102 Points:110,970 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 12:21:15 PM Ignore FXRider94 Report Abuse This is just a drop in the bucket, for Shell. They'll make it up, by raising prices a few cents.
milespergallon Champion Author Illinois Posts:3,725 Points:824,965 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 12:17:48 PM Ignore milespergallon Report Abuse Good job reuters. I only wonder just exactly how much is $19.5 'min'!! I think their reporting is about as good as their editorial capabilities! And, Shell has gotten away very very cheap. Who is in their pocket?
paw4X Champion Author Gary Posts:4,443 Points:1,327,005 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 12:15:22 PM Ignore paw4X Report Abuse They will just raise their prices to recoup their loses!
civicdutie Champion Author Rochester Posts:1,402 Points:282,490 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 12:12:47 PM Ignore civicdutie Report Abuse Thats not enough. They should of forced them to sell their gasoline to the public at no profit for a year (no profit for Shell, not the individual stations)
OHMS Champion Author Orange County Posts:5,728 Points:624,810 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 12:12:02 PM Ignore OHMS Report Abuse so if their answer govermint run gas stations; few and far between, with super cleanliness and costs passed on to both fueling motorists and the tax payers?
gypsykid Champion Author Florida Posts:1,068 Points:214,915 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 12:11:12 PM Ignore gypsykid Report Abuse they need to pay more than that for it
gypsykid Champion Author Florida Posts:1,068 Points:214,915 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 12:10:45 PM Ignore gypsykid Report Abuse this wont really be much of a dent for them
TECH500 Champion Author Alberta Posts:2,789 Points:562,740 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 12:10:31 PM Ignore TECH500 Report Abuse Thats like a slap on the wrist for Shell.